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{"author":null,"canonical_references":[],"database_sha256":"8cfbe7284c6936871d57c02dc6aa63ebbdfd4722422d539dd9f716e46e91112e","date_end":null,"date_start":null,"edition_year":null,"id":"sermonindex-ecf-1635","native_reference":{"book_number":610,"chapter_from":2,"chapter_to":2,"system":"MyBible module coordinates (mapping unverified)","verse_from":13,"verse_to":13},"public_import_allowed":false,"record_kind":"verse-keyed-module-record","review_required":["English edition and exact text","author/work attribution","dating","verse mapping and citation kind","reuse and attribution","split author quotations and deduplicate"],"review_status":"unreviewed","source_html":"<p><b>Ambrose of Milan</b>: It was said, moreover, that it was not good for man to be alone. Yet we know that Adam did not commit sin before woman was created. However, after creation, she was the first to disobey the divine command and even allured her husband to sin. If, therefore, the woman is responsible for the sin, how then can her coming be considered a good? But, if you consider that the universe is in the care of God, then you will discover this fact, namely, that the Lord must have gained more pleasure for himself in being responsible for all creation than condemnation from us for providing the basis for sin. Accordingly, the Lord declared that it was not good for man to be alone, because the human race could not have been propagated from man alone.… For the sake therefore of the successive generations of men it followed that woman had to be joined to man. Thus we must interpret the very words of God when he said that it was not good for the man to be alone. If the woman was to be the first one to sin, the fact that she was the one destined to bring forth redemption must not be excluded from the operations of divine Providence. Although \"Adam was not deceived, the woman was deceived and was in sin.\" Yet woman, we are told, \"will be saved by childbearing,\" in the course of which Christ became born of woman.<br/><i>— On Paradise 10.47</i></p><p><b>John Chrysostom</b>: If it be asked, what has this to do with women of the present day? it shows that the male sex enjoyed the higher honor. Man was first formed; and elsewhere he shows their superiority. \"Neither was the man created for the woman, but the woman for the man.\" Why then does he say this? He wishes the man to have the preeminence in every way; both for the reason given above, he means, let him have precedence, and on account of what occurred afterwards. For the woman taught the man once, and made him guilty of disobedience, and wrought our ruin. Therefore because she made a bad use of her power over the man, or rather her equality with him, God made her subject to her husband. \"Thy desire shall be to thy husband?\" This had not been said to her before.<br/><i>— Homily on 1 Timothy 9</i></p><p><b>Oecumenius</b>: For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived fell into transgression.</p><p>For Adam was formed first. Since Adam was formed first, the woman should not have authority over the man, but should be in submission to him.</p><p>Adam was not deceived. As to the comparison with the deceit with which the woman was deceived, the behavior of Adam is neither deceit nor trickery. For it is much more reasonable to be deceived by the serpent than to accept the fruit from the woman and eat it. Therefore, in his defense, Paul says that he was not deceived, but that \"The woman whom you gave to be my helper, she gave to me and I ate.\" (Gen. 3:12) Calmly showing that Adam did not even err after listening to his helper. \"He was not deceived.\" Note that what precedes is to be understood as implied.</p><p>In another way also. How was Adam not deceived? Because neither does Scripture say this, but the woman indeed: \"The serpent deceived me.\" (Gen. 3:13) But Adam does not say; \"The woman deceived me,\" but, \"She gave me.\" She gave to me: For it is not the same to be persuaded by a fellow and companion, and to be persuaded by a beast, slave, and one who is subordinated. Therefore, that was the deception. But neither did Adam see the tree that it was beautiful to eat, but the woman.</p><p>but the woman being deceived. And Paul brings this forward to prevent a woman from teaching. For once a woman has taught, Paul says, she overturns everything and makes the man subject to disobedience: for she was the author herself and advised him to eat. Therefore, he does not say: Eve was deceived; but the woman was deceived, indicating a nature that is easily deceived.</p><p>but the woman being deceived fell into transgression. Not only Eve became accountable to transgression, but also the whole sisterhood of women. For as in Adam we all die, so in Eve all have sinned.<br/><i>— COMMENTARY ON 1 TIMOTHY</i></p><p><b>Origen of Alexandria</b>: And do not wonder if by these faults she who is gathered from the dispersion of the nations, and is now prepared as a bride for Christ, may sometime seem to have been liable. Recall how the first woman was seduced and made a transgressor: who is said to be saved in no other way than through the bearing of children — of those, at least, who remain in faith and charity with holiness. This, then, which is written of Adam and Eve, the Apostle thus affirms: \"It is a great mystery in Christ and in the Church\"; who so loved her that he gave himself up for her, while she herself was still ungodly, as he himself said: \"For while we were still according to the time ungodly, Christ died for us.\" And again: \"For while we were still unbelieving, Christ died for us.\"<br/><i>— COMMENTARY ON THE SONG OF SONGS, BOOK 2</i></p>","source_html_sha256":"e5bfbcc9d01f93f30f9b6450d209a3119d717c3ee11207b3014f14cece59b60d","source_module":"ECF","source_row_id":1635,"source_url":"https://www.sermonindex.net/commentary/ecf/","text_sha256":"4cf86d9802948cbbab603ea4904296637cbc6004103e0f88067473abcbcff22f","translator":null,"work":null}

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