{"author":null,"canonical_references":[],"database_sha256":"8cfbe7284c6936871d57c02dc6aa63ebbdfd4722422d539dd9f716e46e91112e","date_end":null,"date_start":null,"edition_year":null,"id":"sermonindex-ecf-7230","native_reference":{"book_number":290,"chapter_from":29,"chapter_to":29,"system":"MyBible module coordinates (mapping unverified)","verse_from":9,"verse_to":9},"public_import_allowed":false,"record_kind":"verse-keyed-module-record","review_required":["English edition and exact text","author/work attribution","dating","verse mapping and citation kind","reuse and attribution","split author quotations and deduplicate"],"review_status":"unreviewed","source_html":"<p><b>Gregory of Nazianzus</b>: What are we to do now, my brothers, when crushed, cast down and drunk but not with strong drink or with wine, which excites and obfuscates but for a while, but with the blow which the Lord has inflicted upon us? He says, \"And you, O heart, be stirred and shaken, and gives to the despisers the spirit of sorrow and deep sleep to drink.\" To [them] he also says, \"See, you despisers, behold, and wonder and perish.\" How shall we bear his convictions; or what reply shall we make, when he reproaches us not only with the multitude of the benefits for which we have continued ungrateful, but also with his chastisements, and reckons up the remedies with which we have refused to be healed?<br/><i>— ON HIS FATHER'S SILENCE, ORATION 16:10</i></p><p><b>Jerome</b>: (Verse 9) Be astonished and amazed: fluctuate and waver, become drunk, not with wine, be moved, not with intoxication.</p><p>But all prophecy after the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, that is, Ariel, is against the scribes and Pharisees, who, possessing the key of knowledge, do not enter themselves, nor do they allow others to enter. And it is commanded to them, that they should be amazed and astonished, rather according to the septuagint dissolution of the whole body and the excess of the mind, and that they should be moved and fluctuate: staggering not from wine or from strong drink, but from the spirit of sleep or of the Lord's compunction, so that understanding their evil, they may at some point repent, and say with the prophet: I am troubled in my weakness, while the thorn is being fastened to me (Ps. XXXI, 4).<br/><i>— Commentary on Isaiah</i></p><p><b>John Chrysostom</b>: Since you are reasonable, I know that after my exhortation you will not permit yourselves to go beyond the bounds of what you need. But now it is appropriate for me to urge you not only to turn aside from drinking to excess but also to avoid the drunkenness that comes without drinking wine. For this kind is more dangerous. Don't be astonished at what I say, for it is possible to be drunk without wine. That you may know that this is possible, listen to the prophet, who said, \"Woe to those who are drunk not from wine.\" But what is this drunkenness that does not come from wine? It takes many and varied forms. For anger makes us drunk; so too, vainglory, haughty madness, and all the deadly passions that spring up in us produce a kind of drunkenness and satiety that darkens our reason. For drunkenness is nothing more than the distraction of our minds from their natural ways, the straying of reason and the loss of our understanding.<br/><i>— BAPTISMAL INSTRUCTIONS 5:4</i></p><p><b>John Chrysostom</b>: Yes, it is possible to be drunk without wine; it is possible for a sober person to act as if he is drunk and to revel like a prodigal. If one could not get drunk without wine, the prophet would never have said, \"Woe to those who are drunk not from wine\"; if one could not get drunk without wine, Paul would never have said, \"Do not be drunk with wine.\" For he said this as if there were a possibility of getting drunk some other way. And it is possible. A person can be drunk with anger, with unseemly desire, with greed, with vainglory, with ten thousand other passions. For drunkenness is nothing other than a loss of right reason, a derangement and depriving the soul of its health.<br/><i>— DISCOURSES AGAINST JUDAIZING CHRISTIANS 8:1.1</i></p>","source_html_sha256":"5732c08a52c770608f6976075ee68c57c1654769c2027d0c1857550f866c60f3","source_module":"ECF","source_row_id":7230,"source_url":"https://www.sermonindex.net/commentary/ecf/","text_sha256":"90381d3c2b42d6ba774a5dcdc2130711b52ad7849224aaae89f697f1781d1018","translator":null,"work":null}