{"author":null,"canonical_references":[],"database_sha256":"8cfbe7284c6936871d57c02dc6aa63ebbdfd4722422d539dd9f716e46e91112e","date_end":null,"date_start":null,"edition_year":null,"id":"sermonindex-ecf-197","native_reference":{"book_number":530,"chapter_from":14,"chapter_to":14,"system":"MyBible module coordinates (mapping unverified)","verse_from":29,"verse_to":29},"public_import_allowed":false,"record_kind":"verse-keyed-module-record","review_required":["English edition and exact text","author/work attribution","dating","verse mapping and citation kind","reuse and attribution","split author quotations and deduplicate"],"review_status":"unreviewed","source_html":"<p><b>Ambrosiaster</b>: Paul allowed others to ask questions about ambiguous matters, so that they might be elucidated by clearer discussion.<br/><i>— COMMENTARY ON PAUL'S EPISTLES</i></p><p><b>Cyprian</b>: Neither must we prescribe this from custom, but overcome opposite custom by reason. For neither did Peter, whom first the Lord chose, and upon whom He built His Church, when Paul disputed with him afterwards about circumcision, claim anything to himself insolently, nor arrogantly assume anything; so as to say that he held the primacy, and that he ought rather to be obeyed by novices and those lately come. Nor did he despise Paul because he had previously been a persecutor of the Church, but admitted the counsel of truth, and easily yielded to the lawful reason which Paul asserted, furnishing thus an illustration to us both of concord and of patience, that we should not obstinately love our own opinions, but should rather adopt as our own those which at any time are usefully and wholesomely suggested by our brethren and colleagues, if they be true and lawful. Paul, moreover, looking forward to this, and consulting faithfully for concord and peace, has laid down in his epistle this rule: \"Moreover, let the prophets speak two or three, and let the rest judge. But if anything be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.\" In which place he has taught and shown that many things are revealed to individuals for the better, and that each one ought not obstinately to contend for that which he had once imbibed and held; but if anything has appeared better and more useful, he should gladly embrace it. For we are not overcome when better things are presented to us, but we are instructed, especially in those matters which pertain to the unity of the Church and the truth of our hope and faith; so that we, priests of God and prelates of His Church, by His condescension, should know that remission of sins cannot be given save in the Church, nor can the adversaries of Christ claim to themselves anything belonging to His grace.<br/><i>— Epistle LXX</i></p><p><b>Didache</b>: But permit the prophets to make Thanksgiving as much as they desire.<br/><i>— The Didache, Chapter 10</i></p><p><b>John Chrysostom</b>: \"Let the prophets speak by two or three, and let the others discern.\"</p><p>No where hath he added, \"at the most,\" as in the case of the tongues. And how is this, one saith? For he makes out that neither is prophesy sufficient in itself, if at least he permitteth the judgment to others. Nay, surely it is quite sufficient; and this is why he did not stop the mouth of the prophet, as of the other, when there is no interpreter; nor, as in his case he said, \"if there be no interpreter let him keep silence,\" so also in the case of the prophet, \"if there be none to discern, let him not prophesy;\" but he only secured the hearer; since for the satisfaction of the hearers he said this, that no diviner might throw himself in among them. For of this also at the beginning he bade them beware, when he introduced a distinction between divination and prophecy, and now he bids them discriminate and spy out the matter, so that no Satanic teacher might privily enter.<br/><i>— Homily on 1 Corinthians 36</i></p><p><b>Victorinus of Pettau</b>: \"Seven thunders uttered their voices.\" The seven thunders uttering their voices signify, the Holy Spirit of sevenfold power, who through the prophets announced all things to come, and by His voice John gave his testimony in the world; but because he says that he was about to write the things which the thunders had uttered, that is, whatever things had been obscure in the announcements of the Old Testament; he is forbidden to write them, but he was charged to leave them sealed, because he is an apostle, nor was it fitting that the grace of the subsequent stage should be given in the first. \"The time,\" says he, \"is at hand.\" For the apostles, by powers, by signs, by portents, and by mighty works, have overcome unbelief. After them there is now given to the same completed Churches the comfort of having the prophetic Scriptures subsequently interpreted, for I said that after the apostles there would be interpreting prophets.</p><p>For the apostle says: \"And he placed in the Church indeed, first, apostles; secondly, prophets; thirdly, teachers,\" and the rest. And in another place he says: \"Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the others judge.\" And he says: \"Every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered, dishonoureth her head\" And when he says, \"Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the others judge,\" he is not speaking in respect of the Catholic prophecy of things unheard and unknown, but of things both announced and known. But let them judge whether or not the interpretation is consistent with the testimonies of the prophetic utterance. It is plain, therefore, that to John, armed as he was with superior virtue, this was not necessary, although the body of Christ, which is the Church, adorned with His members, ought to respond to its position.<br/><i>— Victorinus Commentary on the Apocalypse of the Blessed John</i></p>","source_html_sha256":"0fad224420141e99f493f4b1f07595eb16333fa4915fbed8e64dfa2ddf0c99f9","source_module":"ECF","source_row_id":197,"source_url":"https://www.sermonindex.net/commentary/ecf/","text_sha256":"8e2d7b91404b05cbbd0256e1375da73a7c06160d07b43664d5f119cb345fa6b4","translator":null,"work":null}