11. You laugh because in ancient times the Persians worshipped rivers, as is told in the writings which hand down these things to memory; the Arabians an unshapen stone; 4642 the Scythian nations a sabre; the Thespians a branch instead of Cinxia; 4643 the Icarians 4644 an unhewn log instead of Diana; the people of Pessinus a flint instead of the mother of the gods; the Romans a spear instead of Mars, as the muses of Varro point out; and, before they were acquainted with the statuary’s art, the Samians a plank 4645 in stead of Juno, as Aëthlius 4646 relates: and you do not laugh when, instead of the immortal gods, you make supplication to little images of men and human forms—nay, you even suppose that these very little images are gods, and besides these you do not believe that anything has divine power. What say you, O ye—! Do the gods of heaven have ears, then, and temples, an occiput, spine, loins, sides, hams, buttocks, houghs, 4647 ankles, and the rest of the other members with which we have been formed, which were also mentioned in the first part of this book 4648 a little more fully, and cited with greater copiousness of language? Would that it were possible 4649 to look into the sentiments and very recesses of your mind, in which you revolve various and enter into the most obscure considerations: we should find that you yourselves even feel as we do, and have no other opinions as to the form of the deities. But what can we do with obstinate prejudices? what with those who are menacing us with swords, and devising new punishments against us ? In your rage 4650 you maintain a bad cause, and that although you are perfectly aware of it ; and that which you have once done without reason, you defend lest you should seem to have ever been in ignorance; and you think it better not to be conquered, than to yield and bow to acknowledged truth. 4642     It is worthy of notice that although in this passage, as often elsewhere, Arnobius adheres pretty closely to the argument proposed by Clemens Alexandrinus, he even in such passages sometimes differs from it, and not at random. Thus Clement speaks merely of a “stone,” and Arnobius of an “unshaped stone.” The former expression harmonizes with the words of Maximus Tyrius ( Serm. , xxxviii. p. 225, Steph.), “The Arabians worship I know not whom, but the image which I saw was a square stone;” while Suidas (Küster’s ed., s.v. θεὺς ῎Αρης ) agrees with Arnobius in calling it a “stone, black, square, unfashioned” ( ἀτύπωτος ). This is the more noteworthy, as at times Arnobius would almost seem to be following Clement blindly. [See Clement, cap. iv. vol. ii. p. 184, this series.] 4643     So Arnobius renders Clement’s Cithæronian Hera. 4644     So corrected in the notes of Canterus from Clem. for the ms. reading Carios , retained by the first four edd. and Elmenh. In Icaria there was a temple of Diana called Ταυροπόλιον . 4645     The ms. and first four edd. read p-uteum —“a well,” corrected plut. , as above, by Gifanius, and in the notes of Canterus. 4646     The ms. reads ethedius , corrected in the notes of Canterus. 4647     So all edd., except both Roman edd., which retain the ms. reading in the singular, suffraginem. 4648     i. e., iii. 13. p. 467. 4649     Lit., “it was allowed.” 4650     So Meursius suggested amentes for the ms. reading animantis for which Heraldus proposed argumentis —“by arguments.”