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1 John ii. 19.

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If \"whosoever cannot\r\ngive the Holy Spirit cannot baptize,\" why does the murderer\r\nbaptize within the Church? Or how has the murderer the\r\nHoly Spirit, when every one that has the Holy Spirit is filled\r\nwith light, but \"he who hates his brother is still in darkness?\"\r\nIf because \"there is one baptism, and one Spirit,\" therefore they\r\ncannot have the one baptism who have not the one Spirit, why\r\ndo the innocent man and the murderer within the Church have\r\nthe one baptism and not have the one Spirit? So therefore\r\nthe heretic and the Catholic may have the one baptism, and\r\nyet not have the one Church, as in the Catholic Church the\r\ninnocent man and the murderer may have the one baptism,\r\nthough they have not the one Spirit; for as there is one\r\nbaptism, so there is one Spirit and one Church. And so the\r\nresult is, that in each person we must acknowledge what he\r\nalready has, and to each person we must give what he has\r\nnot. If \"nothing can be confirmed and ratified with God\r\nwhich has been done by those whom God calls His enemies<span class=\"pagenum\"><a id=\"Page_140\">[Pg 140]</a></span>\r\nand foes,\" why is the baptism confirmed which is given by\r\nmurderers? Are we not to call murderers the enemies and\r\nfoes of the Lord? But \"he that hateth his brother is a\r\nmurderer.\" How then did they baptize who hated Paul, the\r\nservant of Jesus Christ, and thereby hated Jesus Himself,\r\nsince He Himself said to Saul, \"Why persecutest thou me?\"<a id=\"FNanchor_356_356\"></a><a class=\"fnanchor pginternal\" href=\"#Footnote_356_356\">[356]</a>\r\nwhen he was persecuting His servants, and since at the last\r\nHe Himself shall say, \"Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of\r\nthe least of these that are mine, ye did it not to me?\"<a id=\"FNanchor_357_357\"></a><a class=\"fnanchor pginternal\" href=\"#Footnote_357_357\">[357]</a>\r\nWherefore all who go out from us are not of us, but not all\r\nwho are with us are of us; just as when men thresh, all that\r\nflies from the threshing-floor is shown not to be corn, but not\r\nall that remains there is therefore corn. And so John too\r\nsays, \"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for\r\nif they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued\r\nwith us.\"<a id=\"FNanchor_358_358\"></a><a class=\"fnanchor pginternal\" href=\"#Footnote_358_358\">[358]</a> Wherefore God gives the sacrament of grace even\r\nthrough the hands of wicked men, but the grace itself only\r\nby Himself or through His saints. And therefore He gives\r\nremission of sins either of Himself, or through the members\r\nof that dove to whom He says, \"Whose soever sins ye remit,\r\nthey are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain,\r\nthey are retained.\"<a id=\"FNanchor_359_359\"></a><a class=\"fnanchor pginternal\" href=\"#Footnote_359_359\">[359]</a> But since no one can doubt that baptism,\r\nwhich is the sacrament of the remission of sins, is possessed\r\neven by murderers, who are yet in darkness because the hatred\r\nof their brethren is not excluded from their hearts, therefore\r\neither no remission of sins is given to them if their baptism\r\nis accompanied by no change of heart for the better, or if the\r\nsins are remitted, they at once return on them again. And\r\nwe learn that the baptism is holy in itself, because it is of\r\nGod; and whether it be given or whether it be received by\r\nmen of such like character, it cannot be polluted by any perversity\r\nof theirs, either within, or yet outside the Church.</p>","headings":["WRITINGS IN CONNECTION WITH THE DONATIST CONTROVERSY.","BOOK FIFTH."],"marker_anchor":null,"paragraph_id":"pg45843-paragraph-190"}],"canonical_references":[],"date_end":null,"date_start":null,"deduplication_fingerprint":"d5c658772927414da2a40a8ca3d52bd7d14422f2498ac4a439e9ad313232e929","edition_title":"Writings in Connection with the Donatist Controversy","edition_translators":["John Richard King"],"edition_year":1872,"explicit_reference_candidates":[{"book":"1JN","chapter":2,"kind":"unreviewed","source_notation":"1 John ii. 19","verse":19,"verse_end":19}],"headings":[],"id":"pg45843-Footnote_358_358","license_url":"https://www.gutenberg.org/policy/license.html","public_import_allowed":false,"record_kind":"original-editor-translator-note","review_required":["work and recension attribution","original-work chronology","Bible reference numbering and citation kind","English edition rights and attribution"],"review_status":"needs_review","rights_evidence":"Provider catalog reports public domain in the USA. 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