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{"author":null,"canonical_references":[],"database_sha256":"8cfbe7284c6936871d57c02dc6aa63ebbdfd4722422d539dd9f716e46e91112e","date_end":null,"date_start":null,"edition_year":null,"id":"sermonindex-ecf-3434","native_reference":{"book_number":580,"chapter_from":1,"chapter_to":1,"system":"MyBible module coordinates (mapping unverified)","verse_from":16,"verse_to":16},"public_import_allowed":false,"record_kind":"verse-keyed-module-record","review_required":["English edition and exact text","author/work attribution","dating","verse mapping and citation kind","reuse and attribution","split author quotations and deduplicate"],"review_status":"unreviewed","source_html":"<p><b>Alexander of Alexandria</b>: For according to them, the space of time in which they say that the Son had not yet been made by the Father, preceded the wisdom of God that fashioned all things, and the Scripture speaks falsely according to them, which calls Him \"the First-born of every creature.\" Conformable to which, that which the majestically-speaking Paul says of Him: \"Whom He hath appointed heir of all things. By whom also He made the worlds. But by Him also were all things created that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions, or principalities, or powers; all things were created by Him, and for Him; and He is before all things.\"<br/><i>— Epistles on the Arian Heresy - To Alexander, Bishop of the City of Constantinople</i></p><p><b>Ambrose of Milan</b>: But let those who propound this difficulty and endeavour to enwrap the truth in a cloud tell us themselves whether the Father exerts His power of begetting within or without limits of time. If they say \"within limits of time,\" then they will attribute to the Father what they object against the Son, so as to make the Father seem to have begun to be what He was not before. If their answer is \"without such limits,\" then what is left them but to resolve for themselves the problem they have propounded, and acknowledge that the Son is not begotten under limits and conditions of time, since they deny that the Father so begets? If the Son, then, is not begotten within limits of time, we are free to judge that nothing can have existed before the Son, Whose being is not confined by time. If, indeed, there was anything in being before the Son, then it instantly follows that in Him were not created all things in heaven or in earth, and the Apostle is shown to have erred in so setting it down in his Epistle, whereas, if before He was begotten there was nothing, I see not wherefore He, before Whom none was, should be said to have been after any.<br/><i>— Exposition of the Christian Faith, Book 4, Chapter 8.99-100</i></p><p><b>Ambrose of Milan</b>: \"Thou hast,\" it is said, \"made them all in wisdom.\" Do we here understand that Wisdom was without a share in the things that were made? But \"all things were made by Him.\" And David says: \"By the Word of the Lord were the heavens established.\" So, then, he himself who calls the Son of God the maker even of heavenly things, has also plainly said that all things were made in the Son, that in the renewal of His works He might by no means separate the Son from the Father, but unite Him to the Father. Paul, too, says: \"For in Him were all things created in the heavens and in the earth, Visible and invisible.\" Does he, then, when he says, \"in Him,\" deny that they were made through Him? Certainly he did not deny but affirmed it. And further he says in another place: \"One Lord Jesus, through Whom are all things.\" In saying, then, \"through Him,\" has he denied that all things were made in Him, through Whom he says that all things exist? These words, \"in Him\" and \"with Him,\" have this force, that by them is understood one and like in all respects, not contrary. Which he also made clear farther on, saying: \"All things have been created through Him and in Him;\" for, as we said above, Scripture witnesses that these three expressions, \"with Him,\" and \"through Him,\" and \"in Him,\" are equivalent in Christ. For you read that all things were made through Him and in Him.<br/><i>— On the Holy Spirit, Book 3, Chapter 12.83-84</i></p><p><b>Ambrosiaster</b>: The firstborn of all creatures. Before every creature, he testifies that the Son, begotten and not created, was born; so that his birth be distinguished from the creation of creatures: and to make this completely clear, he added: For in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. Therefore, those things which were done by Him, are said to be done through Him, because He was born for this purpose, that He might create the creature: that is, to have made it in Him and through Him. For His birth does not profit Himself, but us; because He who was in these things had no need to be born. And in order to clearly explain what and how great the power of the Son is, he shows what exists through him, namely Thrones, Dominions, and Principalities, and Powers; so that, therefore, it is believed that there is absolutely nothing less in him than in the Father.<br/><i>— Commentary on Colossians</i></p><p><b>Athanasius of Alexandria</b>: But the sentiment of Truth in this matter must not be hidden, but must have high utterance. For the Word of God was not made for us, but rather we for Him, and `in Him all things were created.' Nor for that we were weak, was He strong and made by the Father alone, that He might frame us by means of Him as an instrument; perish the thought! it is not so. For though it had seemed good to God not to make things originate, still had the Word been no less with God, and the Father in Him. At the same time, things originate could not without the Word be brought to be; hence they were made through Him,—and reasonably. For since the Word is the Son of God by nature proper to His essence, and is from Him, and in Him, as He said Himself, the creatures could not have come to be, except through Him. For as the light enlightens all things by its radiance, and without its radiance nothing would be illuminated, so also the Father, as by a hand, in the Word wrought all things, and without Him makes nothing. For instance, God said, as Moses relates, `Let there be light,' and `Let the waters be gathered together,' and `let the dry land appear,' and `Let Us make man;' as also Holy David in the Psalm, `He spake and they were made; He commanded and they were created.' And He spoke, not that, as in the case of men, some under-worker might hear, and learning the will of Him who spoke might go away and do it; for this is what is proper to creatures, but it is unseemly so to think or speak of the Word. For the Word of God is Framer and Maker, and He is the Father's Will. Hence it is that divine Scripture says not that one heard and answered, as to the manner or nature of the things which He wished made; but God only said, `Let it become,' and he adds, `And it became;' for what He thought good and counselled, that forthwith the Word began to do and to finish.<br/><i>— Discourses Against the Arians 2.31</i></p><p><b>Augustine of Hippo</b>: Before Abraham, I am, He Himself said: the Gospel speaks: hear, or read. But it is hardly sufficient, before Abraham creator: before Adam creator, creator before heaven and earth, before all Angels and the whole spiritual creation, Thrones, Dominions, Principalities, and Powers, before all things creator. Because in the beginning, the Word was not made, but was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God: this was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him.<br/><i>— Sermon 290</i></p><p><b>Cyril of Jerusalem</b>: Christ then is the Only-begotten Son of God, and Maker of the world. For He was in the world, and the world was made by Him; and He came unto His own, as the Gospel teaches us. And not only of the things which are seen, but also of the things which are not seen, is Christ the Maker at the Father's bidding. For in Him, according to the Apostle, were all things created that are in the heavens, and that are upon the earth, things visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers; all things have been created by Him and for Him; and He is before all, and in Him all things consist. Even if thou speak of the worlds, of these also Jesus Christ is the Maker by the Father's bidding. For in these last days God spake unto us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds.<br/><i>— Catechetical Lecture 11:24</i></p><p><b>Gregory the Dialogist</b>: We have said there are nine orders of angels, because we know from the testimony of sacred Scripture that there are angels, archangels, virtues, powers, principalities, dominations, thrones, cherubim, and seraphim. The apostle Paul also enumerates the names of four orders to the Ephesians, saying: \"Above every principality, and power, and virtue, and domination.\" Writing again to the Colossians, he says: \"Whether thrones, or powers, or principalities, or dominations.\" He had already described dominations, principalities, and powers when speaking to the Ephesians; but when about to say these things also to the Colossians, he added thrones, about which he had not yet said anything to the Ephesians. Therefore, when thrones are joined to those four which he mentioned to the Ephesians—that is, principalities, powers, virtues, and dominations—there are five orders that are specifically expressed. When angels and archangels, cherubim and seraphim are added to these, without doubt nine orders of angels are found to exist.<br/><i>— Forty Gospel Homilies, Homily 34</i></p><p><b>Hilary of Poitiers</b>: And now, since we accept as common ground the fact that God recognises His Son as God, I ask you: how does the creation of the world disprove our assertion that the Son is true God? There is no doubt that all things are through the Son, for, in the Apostle's words, \"All things are through Him, and in Him.\" If all things are through Him, and all were made out of nothing, and none otherwise than through Him, in what element of true Godhead is He defective, Who possesses both the nature and the power of God? He had at His disposal the powers of the Divine nature, to bring into being the non-existent and to create at His pleasure. For \"God saw that they were good.\"<br/><i>— On the Trinity, Book 5.4</i></p><p><b>Ignatius of Antioch</b>: And [know ye, moreover], that He who was born of a woman was the Son of God, and He that was crucified was \"the first-born of every creature,\" and God the Word, who also created all things. For says the apostle, \"There is one God, the Father, of whom are all things; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things.\" And again, \"For there is one God, and one Mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus;\" and, \"By Him were all things created that are in heaven, and on earth, visible and invisible; and He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.\"<br/><i>— Epistle of Pseudo-Ignatius to the Tarsians</i></p><p><b>Irenaeus</b>: The rule of truth which we hold, is, that there is one God Almighty, who made all things by His Word, and fashioned and formed, out of that which had no existence, all things which exist. Thus saith the Scripture, to that effect \"By the Word of the Lord were the heavens established, and all the might of them, by the spirit of His mouth.\" And again, \"All things were made by Him, and without Him was nothing made.\" There is no exception or deduction stated; but the Father made all things by Him, whether visible or invisible, objects of sense or of intelligence, temporal, on account of a certain character given them, or eternal; and these eternal things He did not make by angels, or by any powers separated from His Ennoea. For God needs none of all these things, but is He who, by His Word and Spirit, makes, and disposes, and governs all things, and commands all things into existence,-He who formed the world (for the world is of all),-He who fashioned man,-He [who] is the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, above whom there is no other God, nor initial principle, nor power, nor pleroma,-He is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, as we shall prove.<br/><i>— Against Heresies 1.22.1</i></p><p><b>Irenaeus ((Reporting Valentinian Views))</b>: They go on to state that, when the mother Achamoth had passed through all sorts of passion, and had with difficulty escaped from them, she turned herself to supplicate the light which had forsaken her, that is, Christ. He, however, having returned to the Pleroma, and being probably unwilling again to descend from it, sent forth to her the Paraclete, that is, the Saviour. This being was endowed with all power by the Father, who placed everything under his authority, the Aeons doing so likewise, so that \"by him were all things, visible and invisible, created, thrones, divinities, dominions.\" He then was sent to her along with his contemporary angels.<br/><i>— Against Heresies 1.4.5</i></p><p><b>Jerome</b>: [Daniel 7:9] \"I beheld until thrones were set up, and the Ancient of days took His seat. His garment was as white as snow, and the hair of His head was like pure wool. His throne was composed of fiery flames and its wheels were set on fire. From before His presence there issued forth a rushing, fiery stream.\" We read something similar in John's Apocalypse: \"After these things I was immediately in the Spirit, and lo, a throne was set up in heaven, and one was seated upon the throne; and He who sat upon it had the likeness of jasper and sardine stone, and there was a rainbow round about the throne like the appearance of emerald. Around the throne there were twenty-four other thrones, and upon the twenty-four thrones there sat twenty-four elders, clothed in shining garments; upon their heads was a golden crown, and lightning flashes issued from the throne, and voices and thunder. And in front of the throne there were seven torches of burning fire, which were the seven spirits of God. And in front of the throne lay a glassy sea like unto crystal.\" (Revelation 4:2-6) And so the many thrones which Daniel saw seem to me to be what John called the twenty-four thrones. And the Ancient of days is the One who, according to John sits alone upon His throne. Likewise the Son of man, who came unto the Ancient of days, is the same as He who, according to John, is called the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, and the titles of that sort (Revelation 5:5). I imagine that these thrones are the ones of which the Apostle Paul says, \"Whether thrones or dominions...\" (Colossians 1:16). And in the Gospel we read, \"Ye yourselves shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel\" (Matthew 19:28). And God is called the One who sits and who is the Ancient of days, in order that His character as eternal Judge might be indicated. His garment is shining white like the snow, and the hair of His head is like pure wool. The Savior also, when He was transfigured on the mount and assumed the glory of His divine majesty, appeared in shining white garments (Matthew 17:2). And as for the fact that His hair is compared to perfectly pure wool, the even-handedness and uprightness of His judgment is shown forth, a judgment which shows no partiality in its exercise. Moreover He is described as an elderly man, in order that the ripeness of His judgment may be established. His throne consists of fiery flames, in order that sinners may tremble before the severity of the torments, and also that the just may be saved, but so as by fire. The wheels of the throne are set aflame, or else it is the wheels of His chariot which are aflame. In Ezekiel also God is ushered on the scene seated in a four-horse chariot (Ezekiel 1:4-28), and everything pertaining to God is of a fiery consistency. In another place also a statement is made on this subject: \"God is a consuming fire\" (Deuteronomy 4:24), that we might know that wood, hay and stubble are going to burn up in the day of judgment. And in the Psalms we read: \"Fire goeth before Him, and He shall set aflame all His enemies round about Him\" (Psalms 97:3). A rushing, fiery stream proceeded from before Him in order that it might carry sinners to hell (Gehenna).<br/><i>— St. Jerome, Commentary on Daniel, CHAPTER SEVEN</i></p><p><b>John Chrysostom</b>: Next he proceeds to the doctrine itself. For that they may not think Him to be of more recent existence, because that in former times the approach was through Angels, but now through Him; he shows first, that they had no power (for else it had not been \"out of darkness\" that he brought), next, that He is also before them. And he uses as a proof of His being before them, this; that they were created by him. \"For in Him,\" he saith, \"were all things created.\" What say here the followers of Paul of Samosata? \"The things in the heavens.\" What was in question, he has placed first; \"and the things upon the earth.\" Then he says, \"the visible and the invisible things\"; invisible, such as soul, and all that has come to exist in heaven; visible, such as men, sun, sky. \"Whether thrones.\" And what is granted, he lets alone, but what is doubted he asserts. \"Whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers.\" The words \"whether,\" \"or,\" comprehend the whole of things; but by means of the greater things show it of the less also. But the Spirit is not amongst the \"powers.\" \"All things,\" he saith, \"have been created through Him, and unto Him.\" Lo, \"in Him,\" is \"through Him,\" for having said \"in Him,\" he added, \"through Him.\" But what \"unto Him\"? It is this; the subsistence of all things depends on Him. Not only did He Himself bring them out of nothing into being, but Himself sustains them now, so that were they dissevered from His Providence, they were at once undone and destroyed. But He said not, \"He continues them,\" which had been a grosser way of speaking, but what is more subtle, that \"on\" Him they depend. To have only a bearing on Him is enough to continue anything and bind it fast. So also the word \"firstborn,\" in the sense of a foundation. But this doth not show the creatures to be consubstantial with Him; but that all things are through Him, and in Him are upheld. Since Paul also when he says elsewhere \"I have laid a foundation,\" is speaking not concerning substance, but operation. For, that thou mayest not think Him to be a minister, he says that He continues them, which is not less than making them. Certainly, with us it is greater even: for to the former, art conducts us; but to the latter, not so, it does not even stay a thing in decay.<br/><i>— Homily on Colossians 3</i></p><p><b>Tertullian</b>: But who, except an heretical spirit, could ever bring his mind to believe that the invisible part of creation belongs to him who had previously displayed no visible thing, rather than to Him who, by His operation on the visible world, produced a belief in the invisible also, since it is far more reasonable to give one's assent after some samples (of a work) than after none? We shall see to what author even (your favourite) apostle attributes the invisible creation, when we come to examine him.<br/><i>— Against Marcion Book I</i></p><p><b>Tertullian</b>: To her, therefore, he despatches Soter, (who must be the same as Jesus, to whom the Father imparted the supreme power over the whole body of the ¦ons, by subjecting them all to him, so that \"by him,\" as the apostle says, \"all things were created\" ), with a retinue and cortege of contemporary angels, and (as one may suppose) with the dozen fasces.<br/><i>— Against the Valentinians</i></p>","source_html_sha256":"9c5b515ab2072cb84e648ca52f7a05eb5ca632ded46ba746d943d5659e56a3d3","source_module":"ECF","source_row_id":3434,"source_url":"https://www.sermonindex.net/commentary/ecf/","text_sha256":"71a42394ffd3b240914684befda92d56b7921dc017dc9175ec1b236bc64329d6","translator":null,"work":null}references: [] | work_id: | origin: existing-private-derived-record | source: https://www.sermonindex.net/commentary/ecf/