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{"author":null,"canonical_references":[],"database_sha256":"8cfbe7284c6936871d57c02dc6aa63ebbdfd4722422d539dd9f716e46e91112e","date_end":null,"date_start":null,"edition_year":null,"id":"sermonindex-ecf-6678","native_reference":{"book_number":650,"chapter_from":5,"chapter_to":5,"system":"MyBible module coordinates (mapping unverified)","verse_from":12,"verse_to":12},"public_import_allowed":false,"record_kind":"verse-keyed-module-record","review_required":["English edition and exact text","author/work attribution","dating","verse mapping and citation kind","reuse and attribution","split author quotations and deduplicate"],"review_status":"unreviewed","source_html":"<p><b>Clement of Alexandria</b>: For there were certainly, among the Hebrews, some things delivered unwritten. \"For when ye ought to be teachers for the time,\" it is said, as if they had grown old in the Old Testament, \"ye have again need that one teach you which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of solid food. For every one that par-taketh of milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness; for he is a babe, being instructed with the first lessons. But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, who by reason of use have their senses exercised so as to distinguish between good and evil. Wherefore, leaving the first principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on to perfection.\"<br/><i>— The Stromata Book 5</i></p><p><b>Clement of Alexandria</b>: For Paul too, in the Epistles, plainly does not disparage philosophy; but deems it unworthy of the man who has attained to the elevation of the Gnostic, any more to go back to the Hellenic \"philosophy,\" figuratively calling it \"the rudiments of this world,\" as being most rudimentary, and a preparatory training for the truth. Wherefore also, writing to the Hebrews, who were declining again from faith to the law, he says, \"Have ye not need again of one to teach you which are the first principles of the oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat?\" So also to the Colossians, \"Beware lest any man spoil you by philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of this world, and not after Christ,\"-enticing them again to return to philosophy, the elementary doctrine.<br/><i>— The Stromata Book 6</i></p><p><b>John Chrysostom</b>: At all events observe him continually travailing to introduce the discourse concerning the High Priest, and still putting it off. For hear how he began: \"Having a great High Priest that is passed into the heavens\"; and omitting to say how He was great, he says again, \"For every High Priest taken from among men, is appointed for men in things pertaining to God.\" And again, \"So Christ also glorified not Himself to be made an High Priest.\" And again after saying, \"Thou art a Priest for ever after the order of Melchisedech\", he again puts off the subject, saying, \"Who in the days of His Flesh offered prayers and supplications.\" When therefore he had been so many times repulsed, he says, as if excusing himself, The blame is with you. Alas! how great a difference! When they ought to be teaching others, they are not even simply learners, but the last of learners. \"For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need again that some one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God.\" Here he means the Human Nature of Christ. For as in external literature it is necessary to learn the elements first, so also here they were first taught concerning the human nature.</p><p>Thou seest what is the cause of his uttering lowly things. So Paul did to the Athenians also, discoursing and saying, \"The times of this ignorance God winked at: but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent, because He hath appointed a day in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that Man whom He hath ordained, whereof He hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead.\" Therefore, if he says anything lofty, he expresses it briefly, while the lowly statements are scattered about in many parts of the Epistle. And thus too he shows the lofty; since the very lowliness of what is said forbids the suspicion that these things relate to the Divine Nature. So here also the safe ground was kept.</p><p>\"And are become such as have need of milk, not of strong meat.\" He always calls the lowly doctrine \"milk,\" both in this place and in the other. \"When,\" he says, \"for the time ye ought to be teachers\": because of that very thing, namely the time, for which ye ought especially to be strong, for this especially ye are become backsliding. Now he calls it \"milk,\" on account of its being suited to the more simple. But to the more perfect it is injurious, and the dwelling on these things is hurtful. So that it is not fitting that matters of the Law should be introduced now or the comparison made from them, such as that He was an High Priest, and offered sacrifice, and needed crying and supplication. Wherefore see how these things are unhealthful to \"us\"; but at that time they nourished them being by no means unhealthful to them.</p><p>So then the oracles of God are true nourishment. \"For I will give unto them,\" he saith, \"not a famine of bread, nor a thirst of water, but a famine of hearing the word of the Lord.\"</p><p>\"I gave you milk to drink, and not meat\"; He did not say, I fed you, showing that such nourishment as this is not food, but that the case is like that of little children who cannot be fed with bread. For such have not drink given them, but their food is to them instead of drink.</p><p>Moreover he did not say, \"ye have need,\" but \"ye are become such as have need of milk and not of strong meat.\" That is, ye willed it; ye have reduced yourselves to this, to this need.<br/><i>— Homily on Hebrews 8</i></p><p><b>Oecumenius</b>: \"For although you ought to be teachers.\" He brings forth the accusation with praise. For you are sluggish and careless, he says, although you should also teach others according to the reason of the time. Thus, it shows that they had believed a long time ago,and have heard mysteries; both of these things are worthy of praise, provided they themselves have not been careless. Time, he says, makes people stronger; but you have used this in vain, having been set free.<br/>\"since you have become sluggish in hearing.\" The trials and tribulations, he says, have made you sluggish, and you are not able to listen to perfect words. \"For although you ought to be teachers by this time.\" Then he brings the accusation with praise. For he says you are dull and lazy, though you ought to be teaching others by now because of the length of time. Thus he shows that they had trusted much and had heard the mysteries; both of these things are worthy of praise if they themselves had not become lazy. Time, he says, makes stronger; but you have wasted this opportunity after being set free. For though you ought to be teachers, you are not only not teachers, but you are also unable to learn anything except the elementary, humble, and simple things; and even these not simply, but the weaker still, the elements of the beginning of the words of God. He does not say the elements of words, but the elements of the beginning of words. The elements of the words of God would reasonably be the words concerning the incarnation; but the elements of the beginning of words, which he goes on to say, are: \"Not again a foundation,\" and so forth.<br/>For you are indeed ought to be teachers, not only are you not teachers, but you are also unable to learn, unless it be the most elementary, humble, and simplest things.<br/>And these not simply, but he who is still weaker, the basic principles of the oracles of God. He does not say the oracles, but the basic principles of the oracles of God. And if there are basic principles of the oracles of God, those concerning the incarnation. But the basic principles of the oracles, which he says, \"You need again a foundation,\" and so forth. \"You need again to be taught something.\" What to teach? The principles, he says. \"The basic principles.\" The basic principles, he speaks of the incarnation.but the elements of the beginning of words, which he goes on to say, are: \"Not again a foundation,\" and so forth.<br/>For just as we first learn the letters in writing, so also with divine oracles it was necessary to first teach about the incarnation. For these are suitable for the unbelieving and still infant ears. As for philosophizing about the divinity of Christ, it was therefore complete. Do you see the reason why it accommodates the humble? Because of the weakness of the listeners, who are not strong enough to receive the perfect things. Therefore, even at the beginning of the Epistle, having briefly philosophized about the divinity of Christ, he immediately ceased his discourse. The Epistle is indeed filled with the humble.<br/><i>— The Pseudo-Oecumenian Catena on Hebrews</i></p><p><b>Oecumenius</b>: Basic principles of the oracles of God, he called the humbler sayings about Christ. For those who have not yet attained perfect faith, the only things offered were about humanity, the preachers of the truth. Thus, the blessed Peter measured his teaching to the weakness of the listeners while speaking to the Jews. \"Jesus,\" he said, \"the Nazarene, a man approved by God among you.\" (Acts 2:22) And the following things happened according to this account. And the divine Paul, offering the proclamation to the Athenians, did not call Christ God, but a man, the master. (Acts 17:31)<br/><i>— The Pseudo-Oecumenian Catena on Hebrews</i></p><p><b>Oecumenius</b>: \"And you have become in need.\" He did not say that you have a need, but that you yourselves have become such, that is, you have made yourselves so out of laziness, not being such by nature.<br/>\"Of milk and not solid food.\" He refers to the humble sayings about Christ as milk, those concerning the flesh; but solid food refers to the perfect ones concerning his divinity.<br/><i>— The Pseudo-Oecumenian Catena on Hebrews</i></p><p><b>Origen of Alexandria</b>: For we do everything in our power to see that our gathering consists of intelligent people, and we dare to bring forward in common discourse at the time of our gathering our most noble and divine beliefs when we have an intelligent audience. 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