Testimonia

{"author":null,"backreferences":[{"context_html":"<p class=\"c006\">In the next place, speaking of those who employ the arts\r\nof magic and sorcery, and who invoke the barbarous names of\r\ndemons, he remarks that such persons act like those who, in\r\nreference to the same things,<a id=\"r1223\"></a><a class=\"c008 pginternal\" href=\"#f1223\"><sup>[1223]</sup></a> perform marvels before those\r\nwho are ignorant that the names of demons among the Greeks\r\nare different from what they are among the Scythians. He\r\n<span class=\"pageno\" id=\"Page_378\">378</span>then quotes a passage from Herodotus, stating that “Apollo\r\nis called Gongosyrus by the Scythians; Poseidon, Thagimasada;\r\nAphrodite, Argimpasan; Hestia, Tabiti.”<a id=\"r1224\"></a><a class=\"c008 pginternal\" href=\"#f1224\"><sup>[1224]</sup></a> Now, he who\r\nhas the capacity can inquire whether in these matters Celsus\r\nand Herodotus are not both wrong; for the Scythians do not\r\nunderstand the same thing as the Greeks, in what relates to\r\nthose beings which are deemed to be gods. For how is it\r\ncredible<a id=\"r1225\"></a><a class=\"c008 pginternal\" href=\"#f1225\"><sup>[1225]</sup></a> that Apollo should be called Gongosyrus by the\r\nScythians? I do not suppose that Gongosyrus, when transferred\r\ninto the Greek language, yields the same etymology as\r\nApollo; or that Apollo, in the dialect of the Scythians, has\r\nthe signification of Gongosyrus. Nor has any such assertion\r\nhitherto been made regarding the other names,<a id=\"r1226\"></a><a class=\"c008 pginternal\" href=\"#f1226\"><sup>[1226]</sup></a> for the Greeks\r\ntook occasion from different circumstances and etymologies to\r\ngive to those who are by them deemed gods the names which\r\nthey bear; and the Scythians, again, from another set of circumstances;\r\nand the same also was the case with the Persians,\r\nor Indians, or Ethiopians, or Libyans, or with those who delight\r\nto bestow names [from fancy], and who do not abide by the\r\njust and pure idea of the Creator of all things. Enough, however,\r\nhas been said by us in the preceding pages, where we\r\nwished to demonstrate that Sabaoth and Zeus were not the\r\nsame deity, and where also we made some remarks, derived\r\nfrom the Holy Scriptures, regarding the different dialects. We\r\nwillingly, then, pass by these points, on which Celsus would\r\nmake us repeat ourselves. In the next place, again, mixing\r\nup together matters which belong to magic and sorcery, and\r\nreferring them perhaps to no one,—because of the non-existence\r\nof any who practise magic under pretence of a worship of this\r\ncharacter,—and yet, perhaps, having in view some who <i>do</i>\r\nemploy such practices in the presence of the simple (that they\r\nmay have the appearance of acting by divine power), he adds:\r\n“What need to number up all those who have taught methods\r\nof purification, or expiatory hymns, or spells for averting evil,\r\nor [the making of] images, or resemblances of demons, or the\r\n<span class=\"pageno\" id=\"Page_379\">379</span>various sorts of antidotes against poison [to be found]<a id=\"r1227\"></a><a class=\"c008 pginternal\" href=\"#f1227\"><sup>[1227]</sup></a> in\r\nclothes, or in numbers, or stones, or plants, or roots, or generally\r\nin all kinds of things?” In respect to these matters, reason\r\ndoes not require us to offer any defence, since we are not liable\r\nin the slightest degree to suspicions of such a nature.</p>","headings":["The writings of Origen, Vol. 2 of 2","BOOK VI.","Chapter XXXIX."],"marker_anchor":null,"paragraph_id":"pg70693-paragraph-432"}],"canonical_references":[],"date_end":null,"date_start":null,"deduplication_fingerprint":"4baa53f2d47b41e8971b90035374e59e7fc6aaf70a10cef44a68c5c691bc5b2b","edition_title":"The writings of Origen, Vol. 2 (of 2)","edition_translators":["Frederick Crombie","W. 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