Testimonia

Publiek archief van verzamelde en verwerkte bronrecords.
Overzicht / Records / record

editorial-footnote

Technische verwerking bevestigt geen inhoudelijke beoordeling of toestemming voor openbare publicatie.

record_key: 1f1a9bd6def6f3214629e0098fa2635af197e4f744f0802ab494e469c7bcf03f
origineel ID: ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19 · verwerkingsstatus: Verwerkt, inhoudelijk nog niet beoordeeld · teksthash: c3d62df77d219c5159f955cf5462e6a90c7c4e90affc7fd090321f8c5449bbdd · 322 tekens

Tekst tekstblob openen

He says that in ‘I the first’ the question of time does not come in, else creatures would come ‘second’ to the Creator, as if His and their duration admitted of a common measure. ‘First’ then does not imply succession, but is equivalent to ἀρχή; a word which, as ‘Father,’ does not imply that the Son is not from eternity.

Versies (3)

Versie 5959ad526b81ec8b388745ebe3f604537b14d7f6f44103268a5fe0b443efc0b2
{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"00b234483ba9afe82f6727970a39afe397889966f11c8d9939fa5795059d11b9"},"id":"ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19","note_source_id":"cite_note-19","original_html":{"$text_sha256":"00b234483ba9afe82f6727970a39afe397889966f11c8d9939fa5795059d11b9"},"original_node_id":"mw-reference-text-cite_note-19","source_anchor":"cite_note-19","source_html":{"$text_sha256":"00b234483ba9afe82f6727970a39afe397889966f11c8d9939fa5795059d11b9"},"source_sha256":"2fce606d2e73c6ea47c62ac5f2cbb22e8268ca205358dc306358e2f13664894c","source_url":"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians/Against_the_Arians/Discourse_III/Chapter_2"}

references: [] | work_id: | origin: native-whole-html-projection | source: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians/Against_the_Arians/Discourse_III/Chapter_2

Versie 8ca0b36dd60df39348084658de742b1fe9268e8b9614c9b53f67375ce734c094
{"author":"Historical editor/translator (individual note author unspecified)","date_end":1892,"date_label":"1892 (historical English edition; transcription printing date uncertain)","date_start":1892,"edition_year":1892,"edition_year_basis":"Historical NPNF II IV copyright 1892; original printed default and per-work translation credits replayed; transcription printing date and individual note authors uncertain","id":"ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19","is_genuine_commentary_verified":false,"license_url":"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Reusing_Wikisource_content","public_import_allowed":true,"publication_location":"source-library","record_type":"editorial-footnote","references":[],"rights_approved":true,"section":{"$text_sha256":"453878396185774406507ecdbde0251051687cb9141e40c106bccbc57514ac0c"},"semantic_kind_reviewed":false,"source_context":[{"$text_sha256":"9fa73b68a68e9ed28f431443c394bbfdbcfb3fa640c0785b282bc97d51cf577c"}],"source_library_url":"/library/ba652744edf78280ee9e/#ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19","source_url":"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians/Against_the_Arians/Discourse_III/Chapter_2#cite_note-19","translator":"John Henry Newman (translation and notes), Archibald Robertson (revision and introductions)","verification":{"note":{"backlink_hrefs":["#cite_ref-19"],"body_html":{"$text_sha256":"00b234483ba9afe82f6727970a39afe397889966f11c8d9939fa5795059d11b9"},"body_xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[2]/ol/li[19]/span[2]","container_html":{"$text_sha256":"1c79866484b0c938c48c98dbe5441a6898dd882d982f33aeef39cddd8eeab41d"},"container_xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[2]/ol/li[19]","id":"cite_note-19"},"original_work_coordinate":{"actual_original_callouts":[{"backlink_href":"#cite_ref-19","nearest_preceding_main_text_book_heading":null,"nearest_preceding_main_text_chapter_heading":{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"373cac64fde1b92752fdf2d51f839e12d167a35597a4183a2d5240f552caa396"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"373cac64fde1b92752fdf2d51f839e12d167a35597a4183a2d5240f552caa396","original_node_id":"mwBA","source_id":"ba652744edf78280ee9e","source_path":"raw/research/approved-family-refresh-0049/ba652744edf78280ee9e.html","source_sha256":"2fce606d2e73c6ea47c62ac5f2cbb22e8268ca205358dc306358e2f13664894c","text":{"$text_sha256":"49a1a85526594c318f8d7e0600c2eb1c9dc2db4c004bf72cfde6c411c7aded43"},"xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[1]"},"nearest_preceding_main_text_section_heading":null,"nearest_preceding_transcription_book_heading":null,"nearest_preceding_transcription_chapter_heading":null,"nearest_preceding_transcription_section_heading":null,"original_callout":{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"2cf4aeb0ccd234ce8dfd997bfe205c0c1f2df15e9fcd672710b3b2581ef6dbd5"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"2cf4aeb0ccd234ce8dfd997bfe205c0c1f2df15e9fcd672710b3b2581ef6dbd5","original_node_id":"cite_ref-19","source_id":"ba652744edf78280ee9e","source_path":"raw/research/approved-family-refresh-0049/ba652744edf78280ee9e.html","source_sha256":"2fce606d2e73c6ea47c62ac5f2cbb22e8268ca205358dc306358e2f13664894c","text":"","xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[4]/sup[6]"}}],"ancient_author_assignment_approved":false,"author_assignment_basis":{"embedded_speaker_or_document_uncertainty":false,"historical_author_review":{"native_opening_witnesses":[{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"373cac64fde1b92752fdf2d51f839e12d167a35597a4183a2d5240f552caa396"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"373cac64fde1b92752fdf2d51f839e12d167a35597a4183a2d5240f552caa396","original_node_id":"mwBA","original_text":{"$text_sha256":"49a1a85526594c318f8d7e0600c2eb1c9dc2db4c004bf72cfde6c411c7aded43"},"tag":"p","text_extraction_requires_review":null,"xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[1]"},{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"752e5673128241e2c86d1450304264a3c9507d8e81601d8135f945cd77cedda8"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"752e5673128241e2c86d1450304264a3c9507d8e81601d8135f945cd77cedda8","original_node_id":"mwEA","original_text":{"$text_sha256":"1ac07409915f647886810297e4a6a2a6d7f5f0dd5ff8ab1509107585470b71e7"},"tag":"p","text_extraction_requires_review":null,"xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[2]"},{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"f5a64f33776b5ace1b314ef08e0b5c42334cf1352c3250ffa84f6072fff782dd"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"f5a64f33776b5ace1b314ef08e0b5c42334cf1352c3250ffa84f6072fff782dd","original_node_id":"mwQg","original_text":{"$text_sha256":"17e67c28a403c803dcc61542545e4a51fcf0bedbfb6762a9dcfbc37637acfae0"},"tag":"p","text_extraction_requires_review":null,"xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[3]"},{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"694d918ff82b82b888ff9369a4d24e73fb0824524a84ca85c359322fc50cea2d"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"694d918ff82b82b888ff9369a4d24e73fb0824524a84ca85c359322fc50cea2d","original_node_id":"mwZw","original_text":{"$text_sha256":"9fa73b68a68e9ed28f431443c394bbfdbcfb3fa640c0785b282bc97d51cf577c"},"tag":"p","text_extraction_requires_review":null,"xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[4]"},{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"2b11b173edc0b74939c2d5e566376085c37e8b9fcf99d0048f80a1f8b9f0cb1e"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"2b11b173edc0b74939c2d5e566376085c37e8b9fcf99d0048f80a1f8b9f0cb1e","original_node_id":"mwpQ","original_text":"","tag":"p","text_extraction_requires_review":null,"xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[5]"}],"original_catalogue_membership":{"original_catalogue_memberships":[{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"d3aa2bbbfaf6e71b9b638d3dc535cd817c7e6cc70e5e1f6cfd2364e0c4e5e1ae"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"d3aa2bbbfaf6e71b9b638d3dc535cd817c7e6cc70e5e1f6cfd2364e0c4e5e1ae","original_node_id":"mwCQ","source_id":"805c1eaed35a86243390","source_path":"raw/research/wikisource/patristic-series-stage5/805c1eaed35a86243390.html","source_sha256":"712e135997413339b090c2fa278fd345eb6e8a60f0d93435123cd4764db1f041","text":"Chapter 2","xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[2]/ul/li[2]/a"}],"parent_url":"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians/Against_the_Arians/Discourse_III"},"scope":"Historical edition work attribution only; embedded quotations are not asserted to be the compiler’s own opinion. Introduction writers and collective or anonymous sources remain distinct."},"original_body_boundary":{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"373cac64fde1b92752fdf2d51f839e12d167a35597a4183a2d5240f552caa396"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"373cac64fde1b92752fdf2d51f839e12d167a35597a4183a2d5240f552caa396","original_node_id":"mwBA","original_text":{"$text_sha256":"49a1a85526594c318f8d7e0600c2eb1c9dc2db4c004bf72cfde6c411c7aded43"},"tag":"p","text_extraction_requires_review":null,"xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[1]"},"original_translation_credit_witnesses":[{"first_ocr_line_1_based":413,"last_ocr_line_1_based":415,"original_text":{"$text_sha256":"3c59286849ef8c927e2e2cb975d1d39e5c1d7656fed2bf6dc48c6f38c4eb6660"},"sha256":"3c59286849ef8c927e2e2cb975d1d39e5c1d7656fed2bf6dc48c6f38c4eb6660","source_path":"raw/research/anf-npnf/archive/selectlibraryofn04schauoft.ocr.txt","source_sha256":"ae54c8bac8d2acad6c3d9d3eedc26fb4084254fd4fec6b906b0d32831467b3b3","utf8_byte_end":20328,"utf8_byte_start":20069},{"first_ocr_line_1_based":332,"last_ocr_line_1_based":334,"original_text":"15.  Against  the  Arians  (Orationes  contra  Arianos  IV.),  translation  and  notes  of  Newman,  revised \n\nby  Rev.  A.  Robertson  303 \n","sha256":"4974ef09205d730bd3ac52ab1fed6577fad553d0460ca65b1126b6368a037e3e","source_path":"raw/research/anf-npnf/archive/selectlibraryofn04schauoft.ocr.txt","source_sha256":"ae54c8bac8d2acad6c3d9d3eedc26fb4084254fd4fec6b906b0d32831467b3b3","utf8_byte_end":18071,"utf8_byte_start":17930}],"original_work_memberships":[{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"56d9f253bf0dea6bce2e210c35e5b650f19661691cd0a96300c36909f053f1e6"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"56d9f253bf0dea6bce2e210c35e5b650f19661691cd0a96300c36909f053f1e6","original_node_id":"mwPQ","source_id":"484e992a671e138681ae","source_path":"raw/research/wikisource/patristic-series-volumes/484e992a671e138681ae.html","source_sha256":"5e7c5a4479c2213165792e8ab7e7ad57aa636cc87abaa21ca28a3a1da59420df","text":"Against the Arians","xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[2]/ul/li[21]/a"}],"scope":"Qualified historical edition attribution; composition dates and verse exposition unreviewed","translation_credit_policy":"Original printed default: translations and notes by A. Robertson except explicitly stated alternatives; introductions always by Robertson."},"book_number_approved":false,"book_number_inferred_from_URL":false,"chapter_number_approved":false,"chapter_number_inferred_from_URL":false,"chapter_uncertain":false,"native_paragraph_number_prefix":null,"note_id":"cite_note-19","original_ancestor_location_witnesses":[],"original_main_text_heading_labels":[{"$text_sha256":"49a1a85526594c318f8d7e0600c2eb1c9dc2db4c004bf72cfde6c411c7aded43"}],"original_page_catalogue_memberships":[{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"d3aa2bbbfaf6e71b9b638d3dc535cd817c7e6cc70e5e1f6cfd2364e0c4e5e1ae"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"d3aa2bbbfaf6e71b9b638d3dc535cd817c7e6cc70e5e1f6cfd2364e0c4e5e1ae","original_node_id":"mwCQ","source_id":"805c1eaed35a86243390","source_path":"raw/research/wikisource/patristic-series-stage5/805c1eaed35a86243390.html","source_sha256":"712e135997413339b090c2fa278fd345eb6e8a60f0d93435123cd4764db1f041","text":"Chapter 2","xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[2]/ul/li[2]/a"}],"original_parent_paragraph_witness":null,"original_transcription_heading_labels":[],"original_work_catalogue_memberships":[{"dom_serialized_html":{"$text_sha256":"56d9f253bf0dea6bce2e210c35e5b650f19661691cd0a96300c36909f053f1e6"},"dom_serialized_sha256":"56d9f253bf0dea6bce2e210c35e5b650f19661691cd0a96300c36909f053f1e6","original_node_id":"mwPQ","source_id":"484e992a671e138681ae","source_path":"raw/research/wikisource/patristic-series-volumes/484e992a671e138681ae.html","source_sha256":"5e7c5a4479c2213165792e8ab7e7ad57aa636cc87abaa21ca28a3a1da59420df","text":"Against the Arians","xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[2]/ul/li[21]/a"}],"owner_verified_section_label":{"$text_sha256":"47c3c923cf62b9ce749ad97a96a2b136f9c7f25f091974bc1f3501233ba8103e"},"record_type":"editorial-footnote","section_number_approved":false,"section_number_inferred_from_URL":false,"source_author_assignment_approved":false,"source_id":"ba652744edf78280ee9e","source_paragraph_index":null,"source_url":"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians/Against_the_Arians/Discourse_III/Chapter_2","work_catalogue_url":"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians"},"reference_proofs":[],"source_id":"ba652744edf78280ee9e","source_library_context_witnesses":[{"html":{"$text_sha256":"694d918ff82b82b888ff9369a4d24e73fb0824524a84ca85c359322fc50cea2d"},"html_sha256":"694d918ff82b82b888ff9369a4d24e73fb0824524a84ca85c359322fc50cea2d","xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[1]/p[4]"}],"source_node":{"html":{"$text_sha256":"00b234483ba9afe82f6727970a39afe397889966f11c8d9939fa5795059d11b9"},"html_sha256":"00b234483ba9afe82f6727970a39afe397889966f11c8d9939fa5795059d11b9","xpath":"/html/body/div[3]/div/div[3]/main/div[3]/div[2]/div[1]/section[2]/ol/li[19]/span[2]"},"source_path":"raw/research/approved-family-refresh-0049/ba652744edf78280ee9e.html","source_record_file":"raw/review/source-library-note-batch-0063/original-source-records.jsonl","source_record_file_sha256":"dd49dbe3054fe04fbc7ca500ef3a89b7f3f00a000d72280b3d40ac29e3027b93","source_record_id":"ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19","source_sha256":"2fce606d2e73c6ea47c62ac5f2cbb22e8268ca205358dc306358e2f13664894c","text_sha256":"c3d62df77d219c5159f955cf5462e6a90c7c4e90affc7fd090321f8c5449bbdd","type":"whole-source-library-dom"},"verified":true,"work":"Against the Arians","work_id":"ws-athanasius-supported-1892-ba652744edf78280ee9e"}

references: [] | work_id: ws-athanasius-supported-1892-ba652744edf78280ee9e | origin: whole-source-proof-version | source: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians/Against_the_Arians/Discourse_III/Chapter_2#cite_note-19

Versie ee79dff04141df5564596551aec3d0f44bbb217e0ad0cef48c853a86e68a2e02
{"author":"Historical editor/translator (individual note author unspecified)","date_end":1892,"date_label":"1892 (historical English edition; transcription printing date uncertain)","date_start":1892,"edition_year":1892,"edition_year_basis":"Historical NPNF II IV copyright 1892; original printed default and per-work translation credits replayed; transcription printing date and individual note authors uncertain","id":"ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19","is_genuine_commentary_verified":false,"license_url":"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Reusing_Wikisource_content","public_import_allowed":true,"publication_location":"source-library","record_type":"editorial-footnote","references":[],"rights_approved":true,"section":"Chapter XXIV.—Texts Explained; Eighthly, John xvii.3. and the Like. Our Lord’s divinity cannot interfere with His Father’s prerogatives, as the One God, which were so earnestly upheld by the Son. ‘One’ is used in contrast to false gods and idols, not to the Son, through whom the Father spoke. Our Lord adds His Name to the Father’s, as included in Him. The Father the First, not as if the Son were not First too, but as Origin.; original source section: Chapter 2, editorial note cite_note-19","semantic_kind_reviewed":false,"source_context":["9. If then the Father be called the only true God, this is said not to the denial of Him who said, ‘I am the Truth,’ but of those on the other hand who by nature are not true, as the Father and His Word are. And hence the Lord Himself added at once, ‘And Jesus Christ whom Thou didst send.’ Now had He been a creature, He would not have added this, and ranked Himself with His Creator (for what fellowship is there between the True and the not true?); but as it is, by adding Himself to the Father, He has shewn that He is of the Father’s nature; and He has given us to know that of the True Father He is True Offspring. And John too, as he had learned, so he teaches this, writing in his Epistle, ‘And we are in the True, even in His Son Jesus Christ; This is the True God and eternal life.’ And when the Prophet says concerning the creation, ‘That stretcheth forth the heavens alone,’ and when God says, ‘I only stretch out the heavens,’ it is made plain to every one, that in the Only is signified also the Word of the Only, in whom ‘all things were made,’ and without whom ‘was made not one thing.’ Therefore, if they were made through the Word, and yet He says, ‘I Only,’ and together with that Only is understood the Son, through whom the heavens were made, so also then, if it be said, ‘One God,’ and ‘I Only,’ and ‘I the First,’ in that One and Only and First is understood the Word coexisting, as in the Light the Radiance. And this can be understood of no other than the Word alone. For all other things subsisted out of nothing through the Son, and are greatly different in nature; but the Son Himself is natural and true Offspring from the Father; and thus the very passage which these insensates have thought fit to adduce, ‘I the First,’ in defence of their heresy, doth rather expose their perverse spirit. For God says, ‘I the First and I the Last;’ if then, as though ranked with the things after Him, He is said to be first of them, so that they come next to Him, then certainly you will have shewn that He Himself precedes the works in time only; which, to go no further, is extreme irreligion; but if it is in order to prove that He is not from any, nor any before Him, but that He is Origin and Cause of all things, and to destroy the Gentile fables, that He has said ‘I the First,’ it is plain also, that when the Son is called First-born, this is done not for the sake of ranking Him with the creation, but to prove the framing and adoption of all things through the Son. For as the Father is First, so also is He both First, as Image of the First, and because the First is in Him, and also Offspring from the Father, in whom the whole creation is created and adopted into sonship."],"source_library_url":"/library/ba652744edf78280ee9e/#ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19","source_url":"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians/Against_the_Arians/Discourse_III/Chapter_2#cite_note-19","translator":"John Henry Newman (translation and notes), Archibald Robertson (revision and introductions)","verification":{"proof_file":"raw/review/source-library-note-batch-0063/proof-records.jsonl","proof_file_sha256":"7ea58a3a636042cb9a479725b70a7c60b8b607c9d28864957d21ef1237735f5d","proof_record_id":"ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19"},"verified":true,"work":"Against the Arians","work_id":"ws-athanasius-supported-1892-ba652744edf78280ee9e"}

references: [] | work_id: ws-athanasius-supported-1892-ba652744edf78280ee9e | origin: existing-publication-record | source: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_II/Volume_IV/Against_the_Arians/Against_the_Arians/Discourse_III/Chapter_2#cite_note-19

Plaatsingen (3)

OrdinalInputVersie
$.records[274]14ee79dff04141df5564596551aec3d0f44bbb217e0ad0cef48c853a86e68a2e02
line:275263098ca0b36dd60df39348084658de742b1fe9268e8b9614c9b53f67375ce734c094
line:275396095959ad526b81ec8b388745ebe3f604537b14d7f6f44103268a5fe0b443efc0b2

Bijbelverwijzingen (0)

CoördinaatReferentie

Live-status (1)

Live IDStatusMatchesSchema
ws-library-full-note:ba652744edf78280ee9e:cite_note-19already_live_exact_identity_text1sha256-live-html-quote-character-data-utf8