Testimonia

Publiek archief van verzamelde en verwerkte bronrecords.
Overzicht / Records / record

verse-keyed-module-record

Technische verwerking bevestigt geen inhoudelijke beoordeling of toestemming voor openbare publicatie.

record_key: 0b066c7f0aa330bb198f06d08e08e51986dbf1983efaf977c61cacb39dadc1c6
origineel ID: sermonindex-ecf-296 · verwerkingsstatus: Verwerkt, inhoudelijk nog niet beoordeeld · teksthash: 4df1c77e60ab78ada86fa63efa8cdb4ac0b1cb6f172ae313e5188a205e1a2ad9 · 9,003 tekens

Tekst tekstblob openen

Ambrosiaster : Paul testifies that he has been sent to reveal a secret wisdom which the princes of this world do not know and which they therefore label stupid. The wisdom of God is hidden because it is not in words but in power. It is impossible in human terms, but it can be believed by the power of the Spirit. God foresaw the future sins of the world and therefore decreed this in order to confound those who would turn his wisdom into their own stupidity, and also to glorify us, who would believe it. — COMMENTARY ON PAUL'S EPISTLES John Chrysostom : "But we speak God's wisdom in a mystery." What mystery? For surely Christ saith, "What ye have heard in the ear, proclaim upon the housetops." How then does he call it "a mystery?" Because that neither angel nor archangel, nor any other created power knew of it before it actually took place. Wherefore he saith, "That now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the Church the manifold wisdom of God." And this hath God done in honor to us, so that they not without us should hear the mysteries. For we, too, ourselves, whomsoever we make our friends, use to speak of this as a sure proof of friendship towards them, that we tell our secrets to no one in preference to them. Let those hear who expose to shame the secrets of the Gospel, and unto all indiscriminately display the "pearls" and the doctrine, and who cast "the holy things" unto "dogs," and "swine," and useless reasonings. For the Mystery wants no argumentation; but just what it is, that only is to be declared. Since it will not be a mystery, divine and whole in all its parts, when thou addest any thing to it of thyself also. And in another sense, too, a mystery is so called; because we do not behold the things which we see, but some things we see and others we believe. For such is the nature of our Mysteries. I, for instance, feel differently upon these subjects from an unbeliever. I hear, "Christ was crucified;" and forthwith I admire His loving-kindness unto men: the other hears, and esteems it weakness. I hear, "He became a servant;" and I wonder at his care for us: the other hears, and counts it dishonor. I hear, "He died;" and am astonished at His might, that being in death He was not holden, but even broke the bands of death: the other hears, and surmises it to be helplessness. He hearing of the resurrection, saith, the thing is a legend; I, aware of the facts which demonstrate it, fall down and worship the dispensation of God. He hearing of a layer, counts it merely as water: but I behold not simply the thing which is seen, but the purification of the soul which is by the Spirit. He considers only that my body hath been washed; but I have believed that the soul also hath become both pure and holy; and I count it the sepulchre, the resurrection, the sanctification, the righteousness, the redemption, the adoption, the inheritance, the kingdom of heaven, the plenary effusion of the Spirit. For not by the sight do I judge of the things that appear, but by the eyes of the mind. I hear of the "Body of Christ:" in one sense I understand the expression, in another sense the unbeliever. And just as children, looking on their books, know not the meaning of the letters, neither know what they see; yea more, if even a grown man be unskilful in letters, the same thing will befall him; but the skilful will find much meaning stored up in the letters, even complete lives and histories: and an epistle in the hands of one that is unskilful will be accounted but paper and ink; but he that knows how to read will both hear a voice, and hold converse with the absent, and will reply whatsoever he chooses by means of writing: so it is also in regard of the Mystery. Unbelievers albeit they hear, seem not to hear: but the faithful, having the skill which is by the Spirit, behold the meaning of the things stored therein. In another point of view, the word indicates also the Gospel's being contrary to all expectation. By no other name is Scripture wont to call what happens beyond all hope and above all thought of men. And though it be everywhere preached, still is it a mystery; for as we have been commanded, "what things we have heard in the ear, to speak upon the house tops," so have we been also charged, "not to give the holy things unto dogs nor yet to cast our pearls before swine." For some are carnal and do not understand: others have a veil upon their hearts and do not see: wherefore that is above all things a mystery, which everywhere is preached, but is not known of those who have not a right mind; and is revealed not by wisdom but by the Holy Ghost, so far as is possible for us to receive it. And for this cause a man would not err, who in this respect also should entitle it a mystery, the utterance whereof is forbidden. For not even unto us, the faithful, hath been committed entire certainty and exactness. Wherefore Paul also said, "We know in part, and we prophesy in part: for now we see in a mirror darkly; but then face to face." For this cause he saith, "We speak wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God fore-ordained before the worlds unto our glory. Hidden:" that is, that no one of the powers above hath learnt it before us; neither do the many know it now. "Which he fore-ordained unto our glory" and yet, elsewhere he saith, "unto his own glory," for he considereth our salvation to be His own glory: even as also He calleth it His own riches, though He be Himself rich in good and need nothing in order that He may be rich. "Fore-ordained," he saith, pointing out the care had of us. For so those are accounted most both to honor and to love us, whosoever shall have laid themselves out to do us good from the very beginning: which indeed is what fathers do in the case of children. For although they give not their goods until afterwards, yet at first and from the beginning they had predetermined this. And this is what Paul is earnest to point out now; that God always loved us even from the beginning and when as yet we were not. For unless He had loved us, He would not have fore-ordained our riches. Consider not then the enmity which hath come between; for more ancient than that was the friendship. As to the words, "before the worlds," they mean eternal. For in another place also He saith thus, "Who is before the worlds." The Son also, if you mark it, will be found to be eternal in the same sense. For concerning Him he saith, "By Him He made the worlds;" which is equivalent to subsistence before the worlds; for it is plain that the maker is before the things which are made. — Homily on 1 Corinthians 7 Lucius Caecilius Firmianus Lactantius : But this consideration may perhaps have influenced them, that if there were any true religion, it would exert itself and assert its authority, and not permit the existence of anything opposed to it. For they were unable to see at all, on what account, or by whom, and in what manner true religion was depressed, which partakes of a divine mystery and a heavenly secret. And no man can know this by any means, unless he is taught. — The Divine Institutes Book 2 Philoxenus of Mabbug : And in teaching that not every man is able to be a hearer and a receiver of that wisdom which he had, Paul crieth out, saying, "We speak wisdom among the perfect: not the wisdom of this world nor that of the rulers of this world, which are brought to nought: but we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, which none of the wise men of the world hath been able to hear." The wisdom of this world is not sufficient for a foundation, nor is it able to receive the building of the wisdom of God, and for this reason our Lord placed simplicity in us for a foundation. — 13 Ascetic Discourses, Discourse 4 -- On Faith: First Discourse on Simplicity Tertullian : These, we know, were publicly instituted in Israel; but they lay overshadowed with latent meanings, in which the wisdom of God was concealed to be brought to light by and by amongst "the perfect," when the time should come, but "pre-ordained in the counsels of God before the ages." But whose ages, if not the Creator's? For because ages consist of times, and times are made up of days, and months, and years; since also days, and months, and years are measured by suns, and moons, and stars, which He ordained for this purpose (for "they shall be," says He, "for signs of the months and the years"), it clearly follows that the ages belong to the Creator, and that nothing of what was fore-ordained before the ages can be said to be the property of any other being than Him who claims the ages also as His own. — Against Marcion Book V Theodore of Mopsuestia : By wisdom Paul means the cross and the whole dispensation of salvation. — PAULINE COMMENTARY FROM THE GREEK CHURCH Theodoret of Cyrus : Paul does not mean that he is now communicating in secrets and riddles but that the message he preaches was once hidden. — COMMENTARY ON THE FIRST EPISTLE TO THE CORINTHIANS 175

Versies (1)

Versie 482556ee48d461604045d6c6854e96586fcc7b2d0d6d257773a68bf6bd1851c1
{"author":null,"canonical_references":[],"database_sha256":"8cfbe7284c6936871d57c02dc6aa63ebbdfd4722422d539dd9f716e46e91112e","date_end":null,"date_start":null,"edition_year":null,"id":"sermonindex-ecf-296","native_reference":{"book_number":530,"chapter_from":2,"chapter_to":2,"system":"MyBible module coordinates (mapping unverified)","verse_from":7,"verse_to":7},"public_import_allowed":false,"record_kind":"verse-keyed-module-record","review_required":["English edition and exact text","author/work attribution","dating","verse mapping and citation kind","reuse and attribution","split author quotations and deduplicate"],"review_status":"unreviewed","source_html":"<p><b>Ambrosiaster</b>: Paul testifies that he has been sent to reveal a secret wisdom which the princes of this world do not know and which they therefore label stupid. The wisdom of God is hidden because it is not in words but in power. It is impossible in human terms, but it can be believed by the power of the Spirit. God foresaw the future sins of the world and therefore decreed this in order to confound those who would turn his wisdom into their own stupidity, and also to glorify us, who would believe it.<br/><i>— COMMENTARY ON PAUL'S EPISTLES</i></p><p><b>John Chrysostom</b>: \"But we speak God's wisdom in a mystery.\" What mystery? For surely Christ saith, \"What ye have heard in the ear, proclaim upon the housetops.\" How then does he call it \"a mystery?\" Because that neither angel nor archangel, nor any other created power knew of it before it actually took place. Wherefore he saith, \"That now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the Church the manifold wisdom of God.\" And this hath God done in honor to us, so that they not without us should hear the mysteries. For we, too, ourselves, whomsoever we make our friends, use to speak of this as a sure proof of friendship towards them, that we tell our secrets to no one in preference to them. Let those hear who expose to shame the secrets of the Gospel, and unto all indiscriminately display the \"pearls\" and the doctrine, and who cast \"the holy things\" unto \"dogs,\" and \"swine,\" and useless reasonings. For the Mystery wants no argumentation; but just what it is, that only is to be declared. Since it will not be a mystery, divine and whole in all its parts, when thou addest any thing to it of thyself also.</p><p>And in another sense, too, a mystery is so called; because we do not behold the things which we see, but some things we see and others we believe. For such is the nature of our Mysteries. I, for instance, feel differently upon these subjects from an unbeliever. I hear, \"Christ was crucified;\" and forthwith I admire His loving-kindness unto men: the other hears, and esteems it weakness. I hear, \"He became a servant;\" and I wonder at his care for us: the other hears, and counts it dishonor. I hear, \"He died;\" and am astonished at His might, that being in death He was not holden, but even broke the bands of death: the other hears, and surmises it to be helplessness. He hearing of the resurrection, saith, the thing is a legend; I, aware of the facts which demonstrate it, fall down and worship the dispensation of God. He hearing of a layer, counts it merely as water: but I behold not simply the thing which is seen, but the purification of the soul which is by the Spirit. He considers only that my body hath been washed; but I have believed that the soul also hath become both pure and holy; and I count it the sepulchre, the resurrection, the sanctification, the righteousness, the redemption, the adoption, the inheritance, the kingdom of heaven, the plenary effusion of the Spirit. For not by the sight do I judge of the things that appear, but by the eyes of the mind. I hear of the \"Body of Christ:\" in one sense I understand the expression, in another sense the unbeliever.</p><p>And just as children, looking on their books, know not the meaning of the letters, neither know what they see; yea more, if even a grown man be unskilful in letters, the same thing will befall him; but the skilful will find much meaning stored up in the letters, even complete lives and histories: and an epistle in the hands of one that is unskilful will be accounted but paper and ink; but he that knows how to read will both hear a voice, and hold converse with the absent, and will reply whatsoever he chooses by means of writing: so it is also in regard of the Mystery. Unbelievers albeit they hear, seem not to hear: but the faithful, having the skill which is by the Spirit, behold the meaning of the things stored therein.</p><p>In another point of view, the word indicates also the Gospel's being contrary to all expectation. By no other name is Scripture wont to call what happens beyond all hope and above all thought of men.</p><p>And though it be everywhere preached, still is it a mystery; for as we have been commanded, \"what things we have heard in the ear, to speak upon the house tops,\" so have we been also charged, \"not to give the holy things unto dogs nor yet to cast our pearls before swine.\" For some are carnal and do not understand: others have a veil upon their hearts and do not see: wherefore that is above all things a mystery, which everywhere is preached, but is not known of those who have not a right mind; and is revealed not by wisdom but by the Holy Ghost, so far as is possible for us to receive it. And for this cause a man would not err, who in this respect also should entitle it a mystery, the utterance whereof is forbidden. For not even unto us, the faithful, hath been committed entire certainty and exactness. Wherefore Paul also said, \"We know in part, and we prophesy in part: for now we see in a mirror darkly; but then face to face.\"</p><p>For this cause he saith, \"We speak wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God fore-ordained before the worlds unto our glory. Hidden:\" that is, that no one of the powers above hath learnt it before us; neither do the many know it now.</p><p>\"Which he fore-ordained unto our glory\" and yet, elsewhere he saith, \"unto his own glory,\" for he considereth our salvation to be His own glory: even as also He calleth it His own riches, though He be Himself rich in good and need nothing in order that He may be rich.</p><p>\"Fore-ordained,\" he saith, pointing out the care had of us. For so those are accounted most both to honor and to love us, whosoever shall have laid themselves out to do us good from the very beginning: which indeed is what fathers do in the case of children. For although they give not their goods until afterwards, yet at first and from the beginning they had predetermined this. And this is what Paul is earnest to point out now; that God always loved us even from the beginning and when as yet we were not. For unless He had loved us, He would not have fore-ordained our riches. Consider not then the enmity which hath come between; for more ancient than that was the friendship.</p><p>As to the words, \"before the worlds,\" they mean eternal. For in another place also He saith thus, \"Who is before the worlds.\" The Son also, if you mark it, will be found to be eternal in the same sense. For concerning Him he saith, \"By Him He made the worlds;\" which is equivalent to subsistence before the worlds; for it is plain that the maker is before the things which are made.<br/><i>— Homily on 1 Corinthians 7</i></p><p><b>Lucius Caecilius Firmianus Lactantius</b>: But this consideration may perhaps have influenced them, that if there were any true religion, it would exert itself and assert its authority, and not permit the existence of anything opposed to it. For they were unable to see at all, on what account, or by whom, and in what manner true religion was depressed, which partakes of a divine mystery and a heavenly secret. And no man can know this by any means, unless he is taught.<br/><i>— The Divine Institutes Book 2</i></p><p><b>Philoxenus of Mabbug</b>: And in teaching that not every man is able to be a hearer and a receiver of that wisdom which he had, Paul crieth out, saying, \"We speak wisdom among the perfect: not the wisdom of this world nor that of the rulers of this world, which are brought to nought: but we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, which none of the wise men of the world hath been able to hear.\" The wisdom of this world is not sufficient for a foundation, nor is it able to receive the building of the wisdom of God, and for this reason our Lord placed simplicity in us for a foundation.<br/><i>— 13 Ascetic Discourses, Discourse 4 -- On Faith: First Discourse on Simplicity</i></p><p><b>Tertullian</b>: These, we know, were publicly instituted in Israel; but they lay overshadowed with latent meanings, in which the wisdom of God was concealed to be brought to light by and by amongst \"the perfect,\" when the time should come, but \"pre-ordained in the counsels of God before the ages.\" But whose ages, if not the Creator's? For because ages consist of times, and times are made up of days, and months, and years; since also days, and months, and years are measured by suns, and moons, and stars, which He ordained for this purpose (for \"they shall be,\" says He, \"for signs of the months and the years\"), it clearly follows that the ages belong to the Creator, and that nothing of what was fore-ordained before the ages can be said to be the property of any other being than Him who claims the ages also as His own.<br/><i>— Against Marcion Book V</i></p><p><b>Theodore of Mopsuestia</b>: By wisdom Paul means the cross and the whole dispensation of salvation.<br/><i>— PAULINE COMMENTARY FROM THE GREEK CHURCH</i></p><p><b>Theodoret of Cyrus</b>: Paul does not mean that he is now communicating in secrets and riddles but that the message he preaches was once hidden.<br/><i>— COMMENTARY ON THE FIRST EPISTLE TO THE CORINTHIANS 175</i></p>","source_html_sha256":"b4055b7a0d790fb7e9bd7a758c87f921e413c4b681f9441ecbbc001e6b10ca9c","source_module":"ECF","source_row_id":296,"source_url":"https://www.sermonindex.net/commentary/ecf/","text_sha256":"4df1c77e60ab78ada86fa63efa8cdb4ac0b1cb6f172ae313e5188a205e1a2ad9","translator":null,"work":null}

references: [] | work_id: | origin: existing-private-derived-record | source: https://www.sermonindex.net/commentary/ecf/

Plaatsingen (1)

OrdinalInputVersie
line:2961832482556ee48d461604045d6c6854e96586fcc7b2d0d6d257773a68bf6bd1851c1

Bijbelverwijzingen (0)

CoördinaatReferentie

Live-status (1)

Live IDStatusMatchesSchema
sermonindex-ecf-296processed_not_found_in_observed_live0